fred. UPDATED

im not sure if my boys very well or not

im probably being paranoid, i usually am

but ive just found him outside lying in the rain, wet through!! he came in when i shouted him, but hes gone back out again. and ive noticed these past few days that hes been very edgy and jumpy ...

some scruffy man asked me for the time today and fred lunged for him, i dont know if it was to kill him or lick him, but all the same it was unacceptable

im hoping hes just feeling a little pushed out as daisy has just been spayed and has been getting loads of attention, but fred doesnt go without attention so ive no idea whats up with him

is he eating ok? has he got the runs?

hes eating as he normally does, me standing over him lol... and he hasnt got the runs ..

i took this of him about half hour ago....

ive just been out to him, threw a ball about for a little while and he was fine ... ive peeped through the window and hes sat in the rain again looking all miserable

maybe he is picking up on you and your mum trouble, they are are very sensitive when it comes to your emotions , give him a big hug tell him everything will be ok ,

i never thought of that sue .... hes been getting loads of hugs bless him, i wonder if thats why hes been over protective and clingy then, that would make sense

hes still sat outside

Shelley I don't want to worry you or anything but he might have some pain somewhere, I would get him checked by the vet to be on the safe side. that's what Bailey was like when he took ill a couple of weeks ago. he looks thoroughly miserable hun. although it's nothing but best to ring your vet anyway and ask him

i have wondered if he might be in pain as well, but i always think im being paranoid lol, he was lying in a puddle of water when i first found him outside, then when i shifted him he moved to the decking where he still is now ... i will give the vets a ring in the morning if hes the same ..

ring the vet now Shelley and just tell him what he is like and see what he thinks. if there is something wrong you don't want it to be the middle of the night when he's more poorly

oooh what to do, what to do

i wouldnt be abe to take him down to the vets tonight anyway ... tias fast asleep and nicoles not in to keep an eye on tia , or daisy to make sure she doesnt fiddle with her stitches...

hes sat beside me at the mo, he is looking a little sorry for himself but is it cos im fussing over him,i dont know?.. but if i get up to play with him hes right there with me, its confusing ...

if he was to get ill in the middle of the night, i would call them out hun .. no hesitation

you know your boy best Shelley and coz Daisy has had loads of attention lately. he might just be looking for sympathy
see how he goes

ive booked him in the vets in the morning ... i'll never settle if he doesnt get checked over

they wanted me to take him down before the end of surgery which is at 7pm, theres no way i could get nicole home and get to the vets before then ..

if he was in pain, is there anything i could give him, i meant to ask the vets, but forgot

awwwww bless him hope he's ok Shelley give him a big hug from me

hows daisy

I'm sure he will be fine hun giving his symptoms now,
at least he is with you and not lying out in the rain thats what worried me and the pic he looked totally miserable

hes back outside again ... gonna get him in and shut the door in a bit ..

daisy is fullyish back to normal now jude shes had her painkillers from the vets this morning, and theyve kicked in

Awww hope Freds feeling better

I hope fredley is feeling better
also not forgetting little daisy doo

aww hope he is okay hun I am worried now how he is

weve been to the vets today, and the new isnt good

the vet is sure fred has the early signs of arthritis.. .. he had a very thorough examination this morning, and the vet confirmed what i already had a sneaky suspicion of, she could even see what leg he was having problems with before i mentioned it, and when she touched it and manipulated it, fred growled very loudly lol .. i had been to the vets a few weeks ago when fred had his six monthly check up and i mentioned then that his leg clicks loudly and he struggles with it when he gets up, but the vet said he was fine and the clicking was normal(i think i mentioned it on the forum previously too) i had also previously noticed fred scraping his leg on the odd occasion, but yet again the vet said it was fine

the vet we had today was brilliant, she was very good she has put fred on metacam, he is to have no walks for a week or so, then we are to go back, he will have x-rays and we will go from there..

i checked with the vet insurance we have to see if we are covered for the x-rays an possible medication he will be on, and we arent... its our fault we havent read the small print properly ... but its not a problem, he will get whatever treatment he needs, and if it got too much, then i'd have to go get a job

has anybody got any advice, ive been trawling the internet and its all very overwhelming

POOR FRED, he is only a baby to be getting arthritis, my susie [ bless her ] got polyarthritis in every joint due to a allergy to a antibiotic , when it happened the vet wanting to put her to sleep she was that bad, but i said i would try alternate medication and put her on dorwest products http://www.dorwest.com/Top/Joints arnica and rhutox , after a few weeks she went swimming and i managed to keep her going with a good life for 2 extra years, now i have my girls on food with added glucosamine and cronadine but would go back to dorwest if they got any signs of arthritis

i'll have a look at the dorwest cheers hun, theres so much advice out there my head is swimming lol... i just want to do whats best for my lad

would giving him cod liver oil in his food help,or is it too little too late

i keep blaming myself wondering if ive done something wrong... have i over walked him, he fell off the trampoline a few times when he was younger and i never took him to the vets, has running up and down the stairs contributed, slippin on the laminate cant be any good either etc etc

im hoping the metacam helps and his x-rays, when he has them, arent too bad *fingers crossed*

Shelley first of all you have to stop blaming yourself
IT'S NOT YOUR FAULT
and the vets might be wrong it could be a sprain or something. wait for the x-ray results hun
sending (((hugs))) to you and Fredly

Im sorry to hear about Fred . Like Karen says you must not blame yourself .

Im with Sue with regards to the Dorwest products it is good stuff.
Sending hugs to you and Fred