Stan and Joe Update

Subject: Stan and Joe Update Wed Apr 29, 2009 6:39 pm

Well, things were going really well with Stan and Joe until the last few days. Hes been growling more and keeps getting teeth out to him too so I've decided, if he carries on, hes having a muzzle and he will be neutered next month anyway and see how we go. He can be fine with Joe then all of a sudden change and its a bit worrying when he does because it seems to come from nowhere. We are upping the training too and trying to get Joe very involved etc

Little pain in the arse :shutittt:

Subject: Re: Stan and Joe Update Wed Apr 29, 2009 6:42 pm

aww im sure you will conquer it hun ... from what i have learnt on the forum, the males are more of a problem than the bitches Stan and Joe Update 729386

when tias in full time school in september, fred wont know whats hit him, we will be out everday but for longer than normal and doing some training :2431:

Subject: Re: Stan and Joe Update Wed Apr 29, 2009 6:46 pm

Hes getting "boy hormones" too which could explain why hes being worse again. I caught him mounting Mags the other day. That fat lump just ignored him :2445:

Joe will be at nursery soon too, his toilet training is going pretty well now Stan and Joe Update 729386

which will make it lots easier and Stan is crate trained too so its manageable in the meantime. I've read male rotts can be a real pain when young too so its just a case of keeping on top and loads of training I think Stan and Joe Update 729386

Its just annoying cos hes so timid with everyone but Joe.

Subject: Re: Stan and Joe Update Wed Apr 29, 2009 6:47 pm

Am sure you will sort it hun, Joe does a lot with the dogs, much more than an average child would, hopefully when he is done he will be better, Stan and Joe Update 729386

and like you say your upping the training, Stan and Joe Update 729386

crossing everything for ya :san15:

Subject: Re: Stan and Joe Update Wed Apr 29, 2009 6:48 pm

i wonder why it just joe he has a problem with, wonder if its because theyre two young males

get joe into nursery for september and we can do some teaining together on the racecourse :2431:

Subject: Re: Stan and Joe Update Wed Apr 29, 2009 6:51 pm

Thank you, it got me a bit down this morning cos he doesnt normally get his teeth out so I was "surprised" :love: :love:

He got a tap across the chops and ignored for a bit and has been fine since Stan and Joe Update 729386

I think its little kids he doesnt like. He came from a home with kids, I think they ragdolled him alot, he can be a bit nervy. Hes perfectly fine with Adam though but will tense a little when he sees little ones on the park etc so we let them stroke the girls more and let Stan stand back and watch without being "pestered".

Subject: Re: Stan and Joe Update Wed Apr 29, 2009 6:52 pm

fingers crossed you get on top of it hun, i should imagine youre watching him like a hawk Stan and Joe Update 729386

Subject: Re: Stan and Joe Update Wed Apr 29, 2009 6:54 pm

Subject: Re: Stan and Joe Update Wed Apr 29, 2009 7:02 pm

its always bloody men that cause the hassle :2431:

Subject: Re: Stan and Joe Update Wed Apr 29, 2009 7:06 pm

It's more understandable if he came from a home that kids disrespected him, poor boy, but he still needs to learn that it's not on, you will nip this in the bud hun I am confident of that Stan and Joe Update 729386

Subject: Re: Stan and Joe Update Wed Apr 29, 2009 7:07 pm

:love: :love: :love:

Subject: Re: Stan and Joe Update Wed Apr 29, 2009 7:48 pm

it might take you longer than the girls hun, but im sure you will get there...
fred walked past two dogs today in close proximity and never made a murmur, so there is hope lol...

Subject: Re: Stan and Joe Update Wed Apr 29, 2009 7:51 pm

Thats what I thought. Were expecting this to be a "challenge" for a couple of years yet, with hormones etc and from what weve read about Rotts and young males, plus knowing other peoples dogs and thats fine, hes a great dog other than this slight issue :love: :love: :love:

Oh, and the fooker chewed my dining chairs the other day :2445: :2445: :2445:

Subject: Re: Stan and Joe Update Wed Apr 29, 2009 7:53 pm

:2431: naughty boy, I used Vick vapour rub on anything the pups want to chew

Subject: Re: Stan and Joe Update Wed Apr 29, 2009 7:54 pm

thats what i used with betty, vapour rub :2431: it works a treat... we never really had a problem with fred chewing, just the odd toy thats all

Subject: Re: Stan and Joe Update Wed Apr 29, 2009 7:56 pm

Yeah, Vicks is great for that. He doesnt normally get the chance to chew, hes crated at night but we thought he was asleep in there. Obviously not :2445: Hes prob teething too, could be another reason hes grumpy.

Subject: Re: Stan and Joe Update Wed Apr 29, 2009 7:57 pm

could be that hes teething then hun, theres nothing worse than toothache and dogs must feel it like humans do

Subject: Re: Stan and Joe Update Thu Apr 30, 2009 10:14 am

Teething is the very worst time for them Stan and Joe Update 729386

Subject: Re: Stan and Joe Update Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:14 am

awww hun we all seem to be having issues at the mo

i would say its hormones also hun like you said your doing the right thing tho

he may also see joe as a challange as they are both make and young if that makes sence but like you say if hes been upset by kids in the past it will stick with him

let us know how you get on :love:

i for one will be sticking with my bitches from now on much less hassle IMO lol

Subject: Re: Stan and Joe Update Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:31 am

Thank you :love: :love: :love:

I prefer bitches too Stan and Joe Update 729386

I find them so much easier!

Subject: Re: Stan and Joe Update Mon May 04, 2009 11:17 pm

I've been reading in a couple of fb groups and a few people seem to have Rotts that grumble at them when they tell it to get off the sofa, calm down etc. They seem to think its a bree thing to grumble.

Also, weve noticed that when Stan growls at something outside or a noise etc, its a much deeper growl and his body language is all different to when he growls at Joe, so I'm wondering if it is a thing alot of Rotts do??? A "protest" of sorts?

Anyone else have experience with Rotts that do the same?

Subject: Re: Stan and Joe Update Tue May 05, 2009 7:44 am

Our Shadow does the famous Rottie rumble too hun, my brother has a firm hand with him but his g/f treats Shadow like a baby so he takes the total piss out of her
It's rather un nerving if you're not used to a rottie rumble :2431: Shadow is a talker... he likes to have wee rumbly chats with you :2445:
But like you say... you sure can tell the difference when it's a growl and not the typical rumble
You're doing a great job with Stan hun :love:

Subject: Re: Stan and Joe Update Tue May 05, 2009 9:00 am

Just seen this Paula you are doing a great job with Stan hun and im sure you will get there!! :love: :love:

Subject: Re: Stan and Joe Update Tue May 05, 2009 10:09 am

Is this like the GSD growwwwwwwwwwwllllllllllllllllllllll thing that's not a proper growl?

Bryn does it and people get nervous of it but it's not the same growl as when he is 'serious' it a talking to us groany type growl that my mom says sounds like a bear.

Or is it somrthing different that Rotties do?

Subject: Re: Stan and Joe Update Tue May 05, 2009 10:44 am

im glad you said bryn does it sange, i was reading through thinking 'this is what fred does sometimes' and for those who dont know, it can sound menacing, but sometimes fred does it if you wont throw his ball in the garden he does a growl as he trots off lol.. its a grumble more than anything :2431:

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