f****king puppy people

i have a woman with her name down for a puppy , she's been to the house and we got on well, anyway she is wanting a longcoat and there are a couple in the litter , she text me yesterday asking when she can come see the pups , so i said that everyone else will be coming on weekend 30/31st of this month , but i also said that if the longcoats are picked there really is no reason for her to come because she is not interested in a standard coat, her reply was i'm sure to can influence people into having the standard coats cheeky mare i told her no way would i do that people pick the pup they want , i might advice if there is a fiesty one , but i would never try to sway anyone to buy a puppy just so i have a sale for the other , rant over

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the feckin cheek of the woman

i dont know how you put up with some people Sue!!! I know I was a nightmare pestering you ( in the nicest way tho cos I was desperate for a jacobrad pup!!) but I dont think I was ever cheeky like that!!

no jude wish everyone was like you, you took my advice on kala i knew she would make a good obedient dog but the decition was left to you in the end

This is why I NEVER let my 'families' choose their pups....too much leeway!
When I have a litter born, I then go through my waiting list and chose the number of families to the amount of pups I am letting go and email them to tell them they have been chosen. Bearing in mind that these families have been in constant contact with me for upto a year so know how we do things here.
I then invite my choosen ones to come and meet us and see the babes at three weeks old (over one weekend with a two hour interview timeslot) at this stage we chat about stuff, get to know each other face to face and I go over the extensive folder which they recieve on the collection day. I do encourage them to bring pre written questions (most people when in the situation forget any questions they had in mind) and a note pad to write down anything they may wish to ask at a later date. Then if everyone is happy (even at this stage I have said no to people) we do the puppy contract with a deposit. They are given their collection date and time. A puppy of the chosen gender and coat is then booked (I already know what they want before inviting them...coats and gender!) but NOT a particular pup as the temperament and characteristics have not yet developed so no one knows what puppy would fit into that particular families criteria or situation.
Upto the collection date, they are allowed to visit at pre arranged times to see the development of the litter etc etc. I also bombard them with photos and regular email updates.
When the 7th week arrives, the pups are prepared for leaving by the Health checks, tattooes etc. This is when I inform the families which puppy they will be getting. I have never yet had anyone declining their chosen pup. The majority say that they are over the moon as 'that was the puppy I hoped I would get!'
They all come on the 8th week at pre appointed times over one weekend, again with two hourly slots. I go over the folder again, sign all relevent paperwork, finalise balance then hand them the puppy with a lifetime back up.

This is the way I do it and I feel it stops any confusion or people as you have mentioned. Basically they are MY babies and I will choose where each one goes....end off. If someone doesn't like it then they can go elsewhere.

CC xx
(PS I have only had 2 Beagles returned - both due to divorces and 4 Shepherds returned - due to redundancy, divorce, loss of a loved one and 'stupidness'! since I started breeding which is many, many, many moons ago. They were all placed in forever loving homes where they stayed until they died.
I don't think that is a bad track record .....I actually have one here at the moment, came back in on Saturday due to redundancy. Lovely bitch aged 15 months. I'll get her a nice home when the right one comes along)

i never got to 'choose' fred .... he was chosen for me by the breeder, i went to see the pups beforehand, then at 8weeks i was given a date and time slot to go get my puppy, we were the last ones on the list, im sure i did shirleys head in cos i was so excited, so i got him a day early

daisy i did choose i remembered a cesar millan show about choosing puppies so i chose her based on that .... and i chose brilliantly

I chose marley from his breeder and I had first choice from the litter but Sue helped me with kala cos I wanted them all!!! Sue knew what I was looking for and even though I had in my mind chosen a different puppy I took sues advice and I havent regretted once getting the little witch!! l!! i dont think (and no offence meant) that i would be happy being told what puppy I was getting when I was paying. I like the fairness the way Sue does it. thats just my opinion and no offence meant!

Judes wrote:

I chose marley from his breeder and I had first choice from the litter but Sue helped me with kala cos I wanted them all!!! Sue knew what I was looking for and even though I had in my mind chosen a different puppy I took sues advice and I havent regretted once getting the little witch!! l!! i dont think (and no offence meant) that i would be happy being told what puppy I was getting when I was paying. I like the fairness the way Sue does it. thats just my opinion and no offence meant!

None taken. But you had someone there who knew what they were doing.
Most of mine don't. If allowed they would no doubt pick the cutie one!

I have an extensive questionnaire sent out to anyone enquiring about a puppy. When returned this is where I weed the wheat from the chaff.
One question is related to hobbies etc. This lets me know, roughly what kind of family they are in regards to lifestyle.

I explain to my families about the 'choosing thing' in this way.
If the family enjoys mountain climbing, speed walking etc then they will need a higher driven pup. If on the other hand they enjoy a quite weekend with the BBQ and the occasional park stroll then they would require a more laid back pup.
If I allowed them to choose......remembering they do not know my pups individually...the Everest climbing family may choose a 'Couch potato' pup and the afternoon strolling family may choose an 'OCD bungey jumping' puppy. Neither of these matches are made in heaven and I would end up getting them back.
I always give my reasons for 'choosing' a particular puppy for a family and if they are not happy (which has never happened) then they can always say no! None ever have. The families are 'paying' for my expertise in the subject and relying on my knowledge to get them a good, healthy, happy and long living companion. I always explain from the get go how I do things and what they are getting for their money, which doesn't just include the puppy.

On the other hand, if someone who has been in the 'Dog World' and is looking for a show, working etc puppy then they are given 2nd pick after mine (I choose at birth when they are still wet) as they should know what they are looking for....different scenario totally.

I am glad everything has worked out for you. I would reckon that the majority chosen by the buyers do work out, but it is a much higher risk I feel.

Hopefully everything is good in the end and everyone is happy with their chosen or choices.

Cc xx

i think if i was sent a questionnare when i enquired about fred.... my hobbies would have been nil at the time..i rarely went out walking and most of the time was spent on the pc and looking after the home

that all changed when i got fred and he was old enough to go out..... we went everywhere, even when he was a few months old, i made tia walk and he went in the puscahir .... nowadays we walk for miles at least 2-3hours a day....

so fred changed my hobbies for me

Actually you would be surprised at how many of my enquiries mention ....no hobbies! but when pushed about it, turns out they do have some. Could be anything from reading, watching TV, going to the Pub, cooking, gardening to Karate, running, cycling etc etc.
It all helps when allocating.
Of course the 'walking' of the dog is a natural assumption so that can't really be included in the intial 'hobby' list unless they already have dogs.

Dogs change peoples lives in many ways....they help with fitness, health (two different things) and bring unconditional love.
I have placed dogs within homes with Autisic kids, wheelchair bound, bedridden etc etc and all have 'done' their task extremely well. Again I chose the pups/dogs for these homes.

Dogs also get otherwise reclusive people out of their houses and hopefully meeting like minded doggie people.

So even if one thinks one doesn't have a hobby in every sense of the word, everyone does something during the day which they enjoy passing time with. Each is as important as the next.

(Feel sorry for your kid though..........imagine getting the babe to walk and the dog to ride! )

CCxx

Dusk kind of picked me lol

you'd think walking the dog would be a natural assumption, its amazing how many people round me who have dogs that never get walked

the only problem i had with fred getting in the pushchair was when he grew out of it, he then thought that every passing pushchair was his and he could try to get into it..this took some explaining i can tell you

THAT I would liked to have seen!

Yeah I know some people don't walk their dogs - breed related has to be taken into consideration!
But I think if they don't walk them, or take them out then how on earth is the dog to be socialised! This brings the problems of snappiness, fear and aggression.
I encourage all my families to get the pups out as soon as but with restrictions of distance due to the young age of the bones etc.
Often at Shows I see these pushchairs for dogs and I have scoffed, but what you said about your dog as a pup, it might be a suggestion to get the puppy out for longer if riding in one of these (ridiculous) prams!
I may make mention of this when my next lot of families come in two weeks time to see this bundle I have. Good idea!
(don't know if some of the burly guys I have had will accept pushing a pink pram)


ccxx

fred was out the very next day after getting him(carried of course) i couldnt wait to show him of to all my friends

i have visions now of a gsd in one of those little pushchairs..all legs and tail hanging out at all angles

it certainly never did fred any harm.... he'd prob get in one now if there was one big enough

The first one of my puppy clients to buy one of these prams AND actually use it...I will get them to take a photo and I will post it on here! Now THAT should be good for a giggle!


Off to shovel a ton of poo from the runs now....!

ooh gosh yea... that would be funny as fluff

have fun s**t shovelling....

yer gotta post the pic when you get it

Blazes breeder let people choose which sex/colour they wanted (there were mainly black n whites or grey and whites) but 2 reds which we taken then we when we went to choose our pup we were actually informed that he had chose our pup for us - we said when we were there how much we love the blue/bi-eyed sibes n blazes breeder kept the only bi-eyed pup in the litter for us (there were no blue eyes) but had he not kept blaze for us we would have gotten to choose which pup we wanted

that woman seems like a right silly cow tho lol

had to read that twice to understand it ..ive caught that from sange

Finished poo shovelling.....only took an hour this time!

Must of been rocket fuel CC

Sue pay no attention. How ya cope with all these peeps is beyond me Bloody cheek if ya ask me (not that ya did )

All we're hoping for is one of Gems beautiful baby boys.Not bothered whether long or short coat. We feel honoured to be giving one of your babies a home forever. Temprement is our consideration above all the fluffins Pup 'll be part of our family irregardless of looks

You know your pups better than anyone and we are more than happy to take your advice

Dont think i would be happy having my pup chosen for me

I can understand the logic in matching pup to owner but surely you cant determine which one will be the couch potato type at such an early age and like Shelley says peoples lifestyles can change around the dog
Lazy couch potatos might take up hiking and mountain climbing and vice versa

I can understand taking advice from the breeder when choosing which is what happened with Jude when she chose Kala which i think is great
Serious buyers should listen to what the breeder advise but like i said i would like to be given all the facts then chose my own pup

Dont take offence thats only my personal opinion

BrenA wrote:

I can understand the logic in matching pup to owner but surely you cant determine which one will be the couch potato type at such an early age and like Shelley says peoples lifestyles can change around the dog

Oh its very easy when one tests all the puppies. The difference with high drive pups and more easy going pups is very obvious. Nothing to do with temperament, it is personal characteristics and level of dominance within the puppy pack.
Also, experience does make a big difference when it comes to 'labelling' pups. Never been wrong yet.

I do agree that dogs can adapt around a family situation but I believe that to match up the more ideally suited who have similar needs then the outcome is longer lasting.

Again, this is how I do things and I have never had a problem with anyone not liking the way I do it...if they did then they are more than welcome to go elsewhere with no hard feelings. I would wish them all the best.

Rocket fuel? Ah! sometimes it feels like it. That was just one poo from each, but will have to do it again in about an hour! in the rain and wind

everyone does it different , i treat every puppy buyer how i would want to be treat if i was looking to buy a puppy,, i have been really lucky i have only ever had 1 pup returned to me and that was because of personal problems , i have made some great friends through my pups and each and every person knows they can ring me at anytime and if i can help i will, i must be doing something right some of my puppy peeps have come back for another puppy,