Number of posts : 31916 Age : 49 Location : posh part of derby Rep : 48 Points : 35955 Registration date : 2008-12-28
Subject: its a very scary society.... Sat Nov 20, 2010 4:01 pm
the video below was shown to me by my nephew, when i first saw it i thought it was somewhere like new york....
its only a few miles away in allenton derby..... and aparantly this goes on all over derby...
it terrified me to watch it... my nephew lives in alvaston derby where these sorts of gangs hang about... he says theres loads of them... they go around stabbing shooting an mugging people ...
the dogs in the video are pure bred pit bulls...the one that all the other dogs want to have a go at is the main dog it has apparantly been in lots of fights, killed dogs and injured some
what is this world coming to.... it scares me :not infront:
liverbird Admin
Number of posts : 15537 Age : 68 Location : posh part of scouseland :) Rep : 31 Points : 20755 Registration date : 2009-01-08
Subject: Re: its a very scary society.... Sat Nov 20, 2010 4:40 pm
omg Shelley thats scary. so much for pitt bulls being banned. those poor dogs I feel so sorry for the breed. why anyone wants to bring kids into this world now is beyond me
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Subject: Re: its a very scary society.... Sat Nov 20, 2010 5:54 pm
OMG absolute idiots, they are trying to emulate the Cribs and Bloods and in typical British style doing a Carry On version! Stupid and very childish. Laughable really if it wasn't so scarey. These gangs are very dangerous because they are filled with scared little boys who try to copy their 'heros' who they see romantised on the television and this is from a very young age.....the 21st Centuary Nanny is now only 32" flat and black!
The dogs......is another concern. They, are unfortunately doing nothing illegal, however if I was 'in the powers that be' there must be a loop hole in the law which can confiscate these dogs as they are being 'potentially' used for fighting.....the video could be used as proof of how they train their dogs!
This has become a very Americanised - Make a claim - Gang related society and I for one dispair at what seems to be lack of interest or maybe power the Goverment, Police or whomever has to stop this 'bomb waiting to happen'.
A very disgusted 'normal' human Carolyne
Judes Admin
Number of posts : 11943 Age : 66 Location : Whitley Bay Rep : 37 Points : 17157 Registration date : 2008-12-28
Subject: Re: its a very scary society.... Sat Nov 20, 2010 7:12 pm
OMG that is very frightening!!!
Maz
Number of posts : 253 Age : 52 Location : Derby Rep : 3 Points : 5432 Registration date : 2010-04-19
Subject: Re: its a very scary society.... Sat Nov 20, 2010 7:53 pm
i thought there are laws regarding pit bulls? i gonna have a look round cos they should be muzzled in public...but will check.
Maz
Number of posts : 253 Age : 52 Location : Derby Rep : 3 Points : 5432 Registration date : 2010-04-19
Subject: Re: its a very scary society.... Sat Nov 20, 2010 8:02 pm
Number of posts : 1861 Age : 35 Location : Coventry, West Midlands Rep : 7 Points : 7311 Registration date : 2009-02-12
Subject: Re: its a very scary society.... Sat Nov 20, 2010 8:43 pm
Maz wrote:
i thought there are laws regarding pit bulls? i gonna have a look round cos they should be muzzled in public...but will check.
does it look like they care about the law tho?
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Subject: Re: its a very scary society.... Sat Nov 20, 2010 9:08 pm
bingnblaze wrote:
Maz wrote:
i thought there are laws regarding pit bulls? i gonna have a look round cos they should be muzzled in public...but will check.
does it look like they care about the law tho?
Maybe this is half the problem...complacency! The youth of today know full well that the Police do not have the power or refuse to use it, they know also that if they are arrested that some dottery, alchohol soaked octaganarian will let them off with a slap on the wrist (which may have worked in the 50's but doesn't now) The Police need to enforce the law to its enth degree, when up in front of a Judge then the full force of the Law should be used with sentances heavy enough to deter. The RSPCA or/and SSPCA or/and DEFRA should enforce the ban on these 'types of breeds'. What is the point of a Law if it is not enforced. This kids/yobs/NEDS/Chavs/idiots/neanderthals know this and they know they will get away with it.
BRING BACK THE BIRCH, BRING BACK BORSTAL, BRING BACK NATIONAL CONSCRIPTION!
slynico
Number of posts : 4215 Location : Derbyshire Rep : 10 Points : 8656 Registration date : 2009-01-06
Subject: Re: its a very scary society.... Sat Nov 20, 2010 9:37 pm
How vile are these people? And what's with the scarf round the face?
People like these should have been drowned at birth. They're pathetic cowardly bullies. Only brave in numbers.
Get one of these up a blind alley on his own and he'd mess his pants!!
Grrrr!
Maz
Number of posts : 253 Age : 52 Location : Derby Rep : 3 Points : 5432 Registration date : 2010-04-19
Subject: Re: its a very scary society.... Sat Nov 20, 2010 11:51 pm
just had another look at the vid, seems to me that all of the dogs have the aggression to want to get at the other dogs. maybe they have all been involved with dog fights using other innocent dogs?!!?
Maybe the vid should be passed on to either the police or rspca, something needs to be done. It could be any of us at the end of them dogs teeth or even our own dogs. It was bad enough when a bull terrier-type dog attacked Lucy for no reason, luckily she didnt get hurt but I wish now that i had taken piccies and taken it further.
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Subject: Re: its a very scary society.... Sun Nov 21, 2010 12:37 am
Haughmill wrote:
The dogs......is another concern. They, are unfortunately doing nothing illegal, however if I was 'in the powers that be' there must be a loop hole in the law which can confiscate these dogs as they are being 'potentially' used for fighting.....the video could be used as proof of how they train their dogs!
A very disgusted 'normal' human Carolyne
I agree, as I mentioned in an earlier post!
I won't jump to the conclusion that 'innocent' dogs have been used as bait, but I will say that these dogs have from a very early age been encouraged to show their agressive and dominant nature towards each other, which if allowed would end up in a melee.
They use these dogs as status symbols and breed them, then distribute the puppies among their own community. At this stage I would say that they enjoy the agressive attitude of the dogs which 'hardens' their status within their gangs.....but 'from small acorns.....et al' One day, one of these numpties is gonna cotton on to the fact that big money can be made from pit fighting and THAT is when innocent dogs WILL be used to bait. These plebians are the future crime barons and it won't be long before most of the ones in the video will be on holiday in one of the 5* HMP resorts gaining his 'A' levels in crime!!
xx
Lainee
Number of posts : 4395 Rep : 25 Points : 9982 Registration date : 2009-06-29
Subject: Re: its a very scary society.... Sun Nov 21, 2010 4:42 pm
liverbird wrote:
omg Shelley thats scary. so much for pitt bulls being banned. those poor dogs I feel so sorry for the breed. why anyone wants to bring kids into this world now is beyond me
Totally agree with what you say Karen. Im scared for my nephew who is 15 years old and worry that he would be one of those kids in the park. I hate to think what it will be like in 10 years time when my niece will be 15.
As for those poor dogs being used as a status thing ..... sadly that will never change
Sandra Admin
Number of posts : 20040 Age : 61 Location : Ammanford Rep : 22 Points : 22516 Registration date : 2008-12-28
Subject: Re: its a very scary society.... Sun Nov 21, 2010 5:30 pm
I find it all very disgusting
Our society is getting shittier every day.
It's getting worse and worse!
fredsmum Admin
Number of posts : 31916 Age : 49 Location : posh part of derby Rep : 48 Points : 35955 Registration date : 2008-12-28
Subject: Re: its a very scary society.... Mon Nov 22, 2010 5:22 pm
i asked my nephew why the police do nothing about it... he said... what can they do, theres too many of them ....
some of them are now in jail for shooting stabbings and other gang related crimes...
i would love to grass them up, but wouldnt for fear of recrimination, i have a 17yr old and a 5 year old think about .... too scary
one on one they are nothing... get them in a group and they are deadly.....
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Subject: Re: its a very scary society.... Mon Nov 22, 2010 6:49 pm
fredsmum wrote:
i asked my nephew why the police do nothing about it... he said... what can they do, theres too many of them ....
Sorry! I just do NOT get that! Too many of them. What are they going to do......beat up the Police? Is this now come to the point where our Police force who are paid to protect us from idiots like these are too scared to anything about it? I can't accept that.....I won't accept that.
I have a 19 year old son, who I must admit is a bit of a 'Mummys boy' (Dom sorry, but you are!) He has never been in a 'gang', he doesn't really like going to pubs or clubs (only if it is a birthday or special) He knows guys from school who are in gangs (NOT as bad as what is shown on that video) and THEY STILL have some repect for the Police.
Maybe it is different Police Forces who have slightly altered attitudes towards gangs. The 8 Forces in Scotland have a no tolerance, so why do other Police Forces back off?
I think that what makes it worse that the members of the public seem to accept this is a natural order of the way things are going. Wrong..it isn't.
Disgusted
CC
fredsmum Admin
Number of posts : 31916 Age : 49 Location : posh part of derby Rep : 48 Points : 35955 Registration date : 2008-12-28
Subject: Re: its a very scary society.... Mon Nov 22, 2010 8:36 pm
i agree...its disgusting!!!!..... but i can believe him though, its too much hassle for the police to gather more officers for back up to tackle the gangs, by the time reinforcements would turn up they would be long gone!!! they would rather leave them be until they commit a crime, then deal with it!!!!....
put them all in national service, get them out on the front line and lets see how hard they all are then!!!!
i showed the video clip and a few others from derby to my daughter, and explained that even though shes 17 that is why i like her in at night time where i know shes safe