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PostSubject: things not going to plan    things not going to plan  Icon_minitimeMon Jul 18, 2011 11:25 am

i had a dog all set up for breeding gemma, but after a extra long look at the pedigree i realized they both had a relative further back that produced blue , i would be gutted if i had a blue so i have to start looking again, gemma is due in season any day so theres a possibility we will not be mating her things not going to plan  988447 things not going to plan  988447 things not going to plan  988447
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PostSubject: Re: things not going to plan    things not going to plan  Icon_minitimeMon Jul 18, 2011 12:38 pm

Aww Sue,never mind hun,i'll put big Indie on a train and you can get him your end.
things not going to plan  729386 He carries l/c gene and defo no blues. things not going to plan  583730
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PostSubject: Re: things not going to plan    things not going to plan  Icon_minitimeMon Jul 18, 2011 3:41 pm

whats so bad about a blue things not going to plan  2454432500 ive never understood this things not going to plan  583730

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PostSubject: Re: things not going to plan    things not going to plan  Icon_minitimeMon Jul 18, 2011 4:21 pm

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Aww Sue,never mind hun,i'll put big Indie on a train and you can get him your end.
things not going to plan  729386 He carries l/c gene and defo no blues. things not going to plan  583730

things not going to plan  805515 things not going to plan  805515 There's a good idea hun things not going to plan  805515 That would be a gawjuss litter things not going to plan  805515 things not going to plan  805515
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PostSubject: Re: things not going to plan    things not going to plan  Icon_minitimeMon Jul 18, 2011 4:39 pm

fredsmum wrote:
whats so bad about a blue things not going to plan  2454432500 ive never understood this things not going to plan  583730

i think they look lovely things not going to plan  910222

Most breeders dont like colours Shell,then again some breed specifically for certain colours.

I have Shadow,but he was neutered at 15 months old,i never intended to breed
with him. things not going to plan  583730

Breeding colours is not my thing but we like what we like,so everybody different
and yes,there are some nice coloured dogs out there. things not going to plan  910222
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PostSubject: Re: things not going to plan    things not going to plan  Icon_minitimeMon Jul 18, 2011 4:47 pm

things not going to plan  56081 sorry shell black/tan bi-colours and blanket backs only for me ,
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PostSubject: Re: things not going to plan    things not going to plan  Icon_minitimeMon Jul 18, 2011 4:50 pm

Does that make you colour prejudiced Sue. things not going to plan  300576 things not going to plan  41621
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things not going to plan  658515 dont see the problem so long as theyre healthy things not going to plan  2454432500


whats the difference between a saddle back and a blanket back things not going to plan  300576 ive not dared to ask on the gsd pages ... theyll think im stupid things not going to plan  41621
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PostSubject: Re: things not going to plan    things not going to plan  Icon_minitimeMon Jul 18, 2011 4:58 pm

lots of people don't see a problem thats why there are so many colours even panda ones, saddle back is like tammy or indie blanket back is like gemma or marley
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panda coloured gsd's are just plain silly things not going to plan  74848
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Does that make you colour prejudiced Sue. things not going to plan  300576 things not going to plan  41621
yes i am when it comes to sheps , just think that messing with genetics is wrong just my opinion ,
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PostSubject: Re: things not going to plan    things not going to plan  Icon_minitimeMon Jul 18, 2011 11:11 pm

i agree with sue shelley

but its all down to money

gsds are about the only breed where the kc allows colours that dont comply with the breed standard to be registered .
even on accredited breeders it states you must comply with your breed standard
whites,blues ,etc dont comply
but do the maths yourself over 12,000 gsd pups registered last year at £13 each
almost treble many breeds

then look at the whites,blues being advertised every week lot of money to lose if you do not register them

but if joe public wants to pay above the going rate for a fault then thats up to them

many dont realise its a fault until they want to try showing
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PostSubject: Re: things not going to plan    things not going to plan  Icon_minitimeTue Jul 19, 2011 10:18 am

ther is currently an advert in scotland
2 litters total 18 pups (same breeder)
advert reads longcoat blues, blue/tan & all black

believe the last time the advert read only blues in scotland £850

think you know who it is Jan there a little further north than you
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things not going to plan  989279 Think i do know who it is Kenny.£850 things not going to plan  989279

Now that is shocking.Would that be the same breeder that has around 10
litters a year. things not going to plan  300576 ......Dundee area possibly. things not going to plan  289342
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I know who it is!! things not going to plan  658515

I think the whole forum knows who it is too things not going to plan  41621
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PostSubject: Re: things not going to plan    things not going to plan  Icon_minitimeTue Jul 19, 2011 12:14 pm

spot on Jan
and she is a KC ACCREDITED BREEDER

JUDE you got it wrong this is another puppy farmer , we know of 3 from fife up and more around ayrshire
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She's actually got 3 litters, all born within 10 days or so of each other
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See this is what pisses me off.Breeders who breed these rare colours and price
them ridiculously high.They are not rare,they are a fault.Ok,i have a white,but as i
have already stated he was neutered at a young age as i never intended to breed
with him. Its the way these breeders advertise them as rare and unsuspecting public
think theyre getting some thing special and are daft enough to pay the price.
Although i do think some of the blame should go to the puppy buyers as if they did their research they would know exactly what they are getting. things not going to plan  981857
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PostSubject: Re: things not going to plan    things not going to plan  Icon_minitimeTue Jul 19, 2011 12:47 pm

they also have an accolade as experienced breeders
on there ACCREDITED BREEDERS u get this when you have registered 5 litters.
the kc set this up to stop puppy farmers but it just helps them
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things not going to plan  910222 We have a mutual aquaintance who recently bought one of her pups
That tells you a lot. things not going to plan  575435
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kennym wrote:
they also have an accolade as experienced breeders
on there ACCREDITED BREEDERS u get this when you have registered 5 litters.
the kc set this up to stop puppy farmers but it just helps them


This is disgusting, how would this stop them? They pay for registration on the first 5 and then get accredited!! Unbelievable.
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PostSubject: Re: things not going to plan    things not going to plan  Icon_minitimeTue Jul 19, 2011 2:41 pm

My missus and I love the pure white and black sheps more than the traditional brown/black colours.

And the Blue Australian Shepherd is just gorgeous. I've had working gun dogs most of my life, pure breed Labs and Spaniels and never registered any of them or had desire to show them. Just love them
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spot on Jan
and she is a KC ACCREDITED BREEDER

JUDE you got it wrong this is another puppy farmer , we know of 3 from fife up and more around ayrshire

I thought our so called friend boasted about a blue litter as well but I probably got that wrong!! Its me age ya know things not going to plan  457589 things not going to plan  457589
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