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PostSubject: At Last! Puppy Farmers are Unmasked   At Last! Puppy Farmers are Unmasked Icon_minitimeThu Feb 11, 2010 3:20 pm

At Last! Puppy Farmers are Unmasked (Thanks to the Bateson Report)

Ryan O'Meara on February 10, 2010

Well, the dust has settled on the hotly anticipated Bateson report in to dog breeding.

Regular readers may have noticed, I’ve been pretty quiet since its
publication – the reason? Well, it seemed logical to me to take the
time to digest both it and the responses to it from the people who are
in position to actually do something on the back of its findings.
Whilst I don’t want to use this column to speak about the Bateson
report in general detail, I do want to focus on an element that I
believe has gone largely unnoticed, and certainly received little
attention – Professor Bateson, finally, gave us all a definition of
what, precisely, a puppy farmer is in terms we can all
understand.Hidden away in the definitions section of the Bateson report
is a little, as yet unlit, stick of dynamite.

For years now, this magazine has asked ‘What exactly IS a puppy farmer?’

Is there a magic number at which point someone goes from being ‘responsible breeder’ to ‘puppy farmer’?

Well, it would seem there is!

The Kennel Club has been vocal in criticising puppy farming. Rightly
so. Puppy farms are a disgrace and the very fact that they appear to
show no signs of decline suggests we have much work to do in terms of
ending their vile existence.

As we’ve pointed out before, the Kennel Club, whilst vocally opposing
puppy farming, actually takes money from the very people who profit
from this sick trade.

It points to its Accredited Breeder Scheme as the ‘best’ place for people to go if they want to avoid the puppy farmers.

So, it may come with a sting to have learned – if anyone actually
noticed – that the good Professor, the man the Kennel Club (and Dogs
Trust) empowered to conduct the report in to dog breeding has actually
given us that magical number that now enables us to label a breeder as
a stone cold puppy farmer.

By now, you’re probably wondering what the figure is?

How many litters – per year – do you need to be breeding before you tip the scale from ‘responsible’ to ‘dog farmer’.

And here it is. Written in to the definitions of the Bateson report:

Dog farm: Any establishment breeding dogs which, by virtue of the
numbers of bitches/ litters involved, falls under the licensing
provisions of the Breeding of Dogs Act.

Ahhh. So, not quite got that EXACT number yet.

Not to worry…

Under the Breeding of Dogs Act, a person falls under the licensing provisions if:

(3) Subject to subsection (5) of this section, where—

(a) a person keeps a bitch at any premises at any time during any period of twelve months; and

(b) the bitch gives birth to a litter of puppies at any time during that period,

he shall be treated as carrying on a business of breeding dogs for
sale at the premises throughout the period if a total of four or more
other litters is born during the period to bitches falling within
subsection (4) of this section.

(4) The bitches falling within this subsection are—

(a) the bitch mentioned in subsection (3)(a) and (b) of this
section and any other bitches kept by the person at the premises at any
time during the period;

(b) any bitches kept by any relative of his at the premises at any such time;

(c) any bitches kept by him elsewhere at any such time; and

(d) any bitches kept (anywhere) by any person at any such time under a breeding arrangement made with him.

So there we have it. Black on white.

According to the Bateson report, the definition of a’dog farm’ / puppy
farm is any breeder who produces four or more litters per year.

Let’s put that in big letters – for clarity:

Any breeder who produces four (or more) litters per year is defined as a dog farm / a puppy farmer.


Now then, thanks to the Kennel Club’s own commissioned report – if you
breed four litters (or more) we finally have the definition we’ve been
looking for all these years.

And, thanks to this definition, we can now begin to examine the data to
see just how many ‘dog farmers’ are putting money in to the Kennel
Club’s coffers each year. Oh, and might we expect to find some
accredited breeders who also produce ‘four or more’ litters per year?

Hmm. I think we might.

Thank you Professor Bateson (and the Kennel Club and Dogs Trust) – the
puppy farming definition has been elusive. But now we have it.

It’s time for action. Puppy farming must end and it must end NOW.

(K9 Magazine)

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PostSubject: Re: At Last! Puppy Farmers are Unmasked   At Last! Puppy Farmers are Unmasked Icon_minitimeThu Feb 11, 2010 4:26 pm

At Last! Puppy Farmers are Unmasked 300576 This seems to me to get more confusing all the time.

I thought each council were a kind of sub-section that put down their own print on breeders in their county At Last! Puppy Farmers are Unmasked 300576

To me it is still to flimsey At Last! Puppy Farmers are Unmasked 300576 what if you have an excellent breeder, who hardly ever breeds and then one particular year has five or so litters from five bitches who only ever will be bred from once or twice At Last! Puppy Farmers are Unmasked 300576



What about all these people who never reg the litter or only reg every second or third litter At Last! Puppy Farmers are Unmasked 300576

What about the people who will comply to four litters a year but keep their dogs in awful condition etc etc etc
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PostSubject: Re: At Last! Puppy Farmers are Unmasked   At Last! Puppy Farmers are Unmasked Icon_minitimeThu Feb 11, 2010 6:07 pm

i agree with what sange says....

surely an accreddited breeder who rears the dogs in the home etc are nowhere near the same as a 'proper' puppy farm where they are kept in poor conditions and never handled etc.... and an accredited breeder will take the dog back if need be...
surely the two are totally different?
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At Last! Puppy Farmers are Unmasked 300576 it's only a step in the right direction tho
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PostSubject: Re: At Last! Puppy Farmers are Unmasked   At Last! Puppy Farmers are Unmasked Icon_minitimeFri Feb 12, 2010 9:16 am

At Last! Puppy Farmers are Unmasked 300576 accredited breeder (paying a fee to kc)allows you to use this term.
No health or breeding checks done.

We comply with GSD BREED COUNCIL

We are not licensed breeders (local council says we dont have enough dogs)
we only have 4 dogs (bliss & balie ) not old enough yet to breed

Bliss will not be used so only one breeding bitch when Balie comes of age.

To be registered breeder with our council you have to own 5 dogs

The reason we know this is that we had a visit from council after bliss&balie's litter
(complaint we were breeding dogs without license ,council want there money to)

But as we only had 4 dogs everything was ok

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PostSubject: Re: At Last! Puppy Farmers are Unmasked   At Last! Puppy Farmers are Unmasked Icon_minitimeFri Feb 12, 2010 9:53 am

we got a call last night (thursday)from a lady called Helen looking to use Axle as stud.

Bitch is not kc reg but full pedigree ? Vet had checked and she was ok for breeding

Asked for hip scores - reply -xrayed but not sent for scoring but own vet had confirmed they were ok.
Question - why were they not scored , reply vet said it could take 6 weeks for results but she came into season
She was told Axle would NOT BE AVAILABLE to her bitch.
She must have thought i would have changed my mind and went on to say she has a small holding and also breeds tibetin terriers.

what you think ? a puppy farmer ?

She got our details of an old show catalouge
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PostSubject: Re: At Last! Puppy Farmers are Unmasked   At Last! Puppy Farmers are Unmasked Icon_minitimeFri Feb 12, 2010 10:09 am

Our council rules are slightly different and i know cause i keep in touch with the lady in charge of the dept. If i breed more than 3 litters a year then i have to get a license. Im lucky if i have one a year so i dont need one either. I dont remember anything about nos of breeding bitches but ill check.
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