kc & gsd

kc & gsd breed council meeting 25th july

KC will welcome longcoats back to showscene 2010.

some major changes to gsd breeding to come - 2 tier kc registration GSD'S 1st breed to be allowed this . dogs with hip score above 20 not to be bred from max split in hips 12. GSD breed council to accept kc accredited breeder scheme upgraded to include mandatory health checks
long coats & short coats not to be bred.
1st steps to cutting out B.S.BREEDERS
more news to follow soon

Gsds with hip score over 10 IMO shouldnt be bred from then we can improve upon this breed even more, and then keep bringing down the scores then we may get somewhere just my thoughts lmao

at present fazza kc has no restriction on hips so 20 is a start.
the breed council average is 19 .
dropping to 10 when average is 19 would leave a limited gene pool

i understand that kenny its shite aint it lol

if we followed in the footsteps of working dog ppl overseas such as the dutch police we would have better bred dogs, dogs with better termemperments and health too. if the dogs are not up to the job nor healthy they are neutered and re-homed leaving only the healthy strong dogs to re-produce and work. never met a healthier, stronger dog then my mali. shows what generations of strict breeding can do IMO.

yea fazza thats why when using dogs from overseas they should have been kk1
(breed survey)
to many dogs are been used here without this if a dog has been refused kk1 in its home country (not fit for breeding)
to many people here think there getting a good dog because it comes from Germany etc they arent going to let there best breeding stock to go unless u pay top money
last good bitch i heard about coming here cost £5000 last year

thats exactly it kenny ppl think £500 quid is a lot of money i have never paid less then a grand for my dogs as pups, i got kiera on the cheap tho :san42:

Dont think this is the KC's plan but David Paynes :whisteling: ive read his comments on the database and he wants to split from the KC

long coats & short coats not to be bred.
???What together ?

is this "THE" david from Videx? hes a nob lmao coat type has nothing to do with it if you ask me Rostams dad was a long coat a throw back to back in the day in holland wen they mixed the breeds but MY GOD what a dog!!!

The one and only :san42:
So does this mean that short coats and long coats are not going to bred together ????

not david paynes he is against this and wants to split from kc as u say tanya.he was in favor of the 2 tier registration , but mr payne makes a lot of these comments for his own gain as he is in favour of the sv systen hence the british sieger
no tanya he wants the gsd breed council to have its own reg system but they voted in favor of kc scheme providing the kc make the health checks compulsory.
remember mr payne is not a member of the gsd breed council , or gsd lge and this was voted on yesterday

if a long coat is registered as a long coat it will not be allowed to be bred to normal coat

he says working bred sheps are not true to standard, when really IMO they are the true shep true to type and the same dog they were many moons ago but then i am a mali owner so he wont like me for that either :san42:

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That is soooooooo wrong , theyre limiting the gene pool to next to nothing .
They have been saying how the shows need to get more attendances , is this why they are letting long coats get involved now ( im actually chuffed that they are ) but there is always a reason as to why

even the WALCSS have got it wrong on there link u put up about show folk not been in favour of long coat.
the only reason longcoats were faults is that most dont have the waterproof undercoat this was the fault the long coat with undercoat was not a fault

So what will happen when the odd long coat is bred by 2 standard coats ??????

my longcoated rescue numpty dog xena had a very thick double coat didnt i know it lmao

i have known standard coats to have no undercoat too tho. its all too much for me give me a dog with four legs and teeth and im away :2445: only kidding i know what i like just being silly :whisteling:

they are following the germans they were 1st to stop them been shown but have reversed that for next year so kc have followed

just putting up some info from meeting some major changes to come in this breed all to come out soon
the kc can not refuse to register a pedigree dog but the new system will allow them to split breeders who do health checks to those that dont even though both could be reg as acredited breeders many gsd breeders would not join the kc scheme because health checks were not cumpusory and thats why DP wanted to break away with gsd having its own reg scheme outside kc
but kc have agreed to adopt some of breed councils ideas

nothing tanya it will be a long coat

IMO i think that every breeder should do every health check possible before breeding ( as i will do ) , i couldnt live with myself if i bred a dog with a genetic problem that i couldve stopped by not breeding in the first place .

I cant wait for the next episode

im sticking to my malis for now, or a nice GMP shepherd pup i think lol

things need improving upon but the kc will not do too much IMO

if u check breed council web page all dogs have to be hemmophila tested to be used as stud no such thing from kc
it also means any dog pups have to be tested before being sold u can not sell pup until 8 weeks and cannot sell on without 1st jabs
thats the health checks we follow breed councils although axle also has been tested clear for JRD you will no what that is if regular visitor to videx web site

Sorry to dissapoint but im not a usual videx viewer :nhy:
What does JRD stand for ????????????

David payne made such a fuss about this a couple of years back
juvenile renal dysplasia (kidney disorder) dna test had to be carried out in canada test kit also had to be purchased from canada
he accused some top dogs of carring this and wanted all breeding stock to be checked
he still has pages on his wed site about this . im not a frequent visitor to his site either i do visit when i hear about another mad cap idea he has

juvenile renal dysplasia? i have heard of this but not through nob face :san42:

cross posted lmao

does david not relise that this is poss due to soooo much inbreeding which im sure hes a fan of? as a lot of ppl call it "line breeding" lmao