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PostSubject: CIMDA & PREDNISOLONE   CIMDA  &  PREDNISOLONE Icon_minitimeThu May 28, 2009 8:41 pm

Canine Immune Mediated Disease Awareness

Been doing a bit of digging after Sly's viist to the vets yesterday.

Just wondering if anybody has used Prednisolone in the past.

One of the reasons my OH made the decision to take him off it was because he said it was making him agressive. The vet said that this steriod doesnt do that. However when I looked on some of the other forums a number of people said their dogs had experienced mood changes, occasionally even leading them to growl at their owners. Sly never got that bad but then he took it out on Todd instead.

But they all went on to say that the drug is wonderful and works by suppressing the dog's immune system.

What worries me (apart from the aggression) is that some said it resulted in hair loss which is the very thing we are trying to control!! (That and the scratching)
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PostSubject: Re: CIMDA & PREDNISOLONE   CIMDA  &  PREDNISOLONE Icon_minitimeThu May 28, 2009 8:51 pm

Sorry, I'm no use to this thread but didnt like to not say anything :love: :love: :love:

One thing that does spring to mind though, I sometimes go on a bullmastiff forum and there are a couple of women on there who seem very knowledgeable with dog health/diet etc, dunno if its worth you posting on there?

http://www.phpbber.com/phpbb/index.php?mforum=bullmastiffforu
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PostSubject: Re: CIMDA & PREDNISOLONE   CIMDA  &  PREDNISOLONE Icon_minitimeThu May 28, 2009 8:56 pm

Thanks. Will give it a try. There is a support group fpr CIMDA but it doesnt seem to have a website
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PostSubject: Re: CIMDA & PREDNISOLONE   CIMDA  &  PREDNISOLONE Icon_minitimeThu May 28, 2009 8:59 pm

havent a clue hun paddy was on certain roids for his injury wen he was younger which made him aggressive and very ill so they can have that effect

hope someone can help you hun i will have a dig round on net wen i get chance too xx
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PostSubject: Re: CIMDA & PREDNISOLONE   CIMDA  &  PREDNISOLONE Icon_minitimeThu May 28, 2009 9:00 pm

Cheers Fazza. That would be much appreciated hun :love:
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PostSubject: Re: CIMDA & PREDNISOLONE   CIMDA  &  PREDNISOLONE Icon_minitimeThu May 28, 2009 9:15 pm

from the little i have just read hun it can cause behaviour changes and also a lot of other issues if used long term such as

• Side effects seen in dogs include polyuria, polydipsia,
polyphagia, poor haircoat, GI disturbance, diarrhea, vomiting, weight
gain, GI ulceration, pancreatitis, lipidemia, elevated liver enzymes,
diabetes mellitus, muscle wasting, and possible behavioral changes.
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PostSubject: Re: CIMDA & PREDNISOLONE   CIMDA  &  PREDNISOLONE Icon_minitimeThu May 28, 2009 9:19 pm

The behaviour changes I can deal with. And as for things like liver damage his quality of life is pretty poor anyway.

Rather a short happy life than a long miserable one.

He looks very thin & poor compared to Nico but the vet says he is not underweight, although borderline. He eats just as much as Nico, if not more. I guess he could be just stressing the weight off?
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PostSubject: Re: CIMDA & PREDNISOLONE   CIMDA  &  PREDNISOLONE Icon_minitimeThu May 28, 2009 9:22 pm

yea he could hun but it says it causes muscle wastage too so could be that too as i know ke looks out of condition now due to her DM as she has lost a LOT of muscle

i think you have to make the right desicion for you and him and lke you say his life is short anyway so rather short and happy then long and miserble

all the other sites i have been on have said the same hun regarding side effect :love:

you could prob get the pills online cheaper too rather then from the vet
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PostSubject: Re: CIMDA & PREDNISOLONE   CIMDA  &  PREDNISOLONE Icon_minitimeThu May 28, 2009 9:26 pm

hope you can get him sorted Bev, i really do, he's such a lovely lad. really feel for you :love:
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PostSubject: Re: CIMDA & PREDNISOLONE   CIMDA  &  PREDNISOLONE Icon_minitimeThu May 28, 2009 9:28 pm

Thanks Karen. He was the most beautiful looking dog before this & its incredibly sad to see what its done to him. I could cry
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PostSubject: Re: CIMDA & PREDNISOLONE   CIMDA  &  PREDNISOLONE Icon_minitimeThu May 28, 2009 9:29 pm

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you could prob get the pills online cheaper too rather then from the vet

Yes our vet has said he will try to match any price we can get off the 'net
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PostSubject: Re: CIMDA & PREDNISOLONE   CIMDA  &  PREDNISOLONE Icon_minitimeThu May 28, 2009 9:30 pm

awww hun :love: i feel for you its horrid seeing your dog get worse b4 your eyes
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PostSubject: Re: CIMDA & PREDNISOLONE   CIMDA  &  PREDNISOLONE Icon_minitimeThu May 28, 2009 9:32 pm

:love: i would cry too Bev, there's nothing worse than seeing yer dog go down hill, and trying your best to find a cure and nothings happening. we all know you are doing the uttmost to help him, no one could do more.. :love:
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PostSubject: Re: CIMDA & PREDNISOLONE   CIMDA  &  PREDNISOLONE Icon_minitimeThu May 28, 2009 9:33 pm

:love: :love: :love:
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PostSubject: Re: CIMDA & PREDNISOLONE   CIMDA  &  PREDNISOLONE Icon_minitimeThu May 28, 2009 9:34 pm

Thanks guys :love:
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PostSubject: Re: CIMDA & PREDNISOLONE   CIMDA  &  PREDNISOLONE Icon_minitimeThu May 28, 2009 9:40 pm

i agree with karen hun :love:

my friend hadnt walked with me and kiera for a while and wen she came out with us she was nearly crying because of how kiera walks now and scrapes her back legs along she said wen she sees her at mine shes leaping around and cant belive this is the same dog she said its sooooo sad to see her become like that so i nearly cried too lmao
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PostSubject: Re: CIMDA & PREDNISOLONE   CIMDA  &  PREDNISOLONE Icon_minitimeThu May 28, 2009 9:41 pm

Oh you've got me going now too :sadd:
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:2431: opps sorry :2445:
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